(A full time job??) Additionally, not everyone is doing the untimed puzzles the same way: People could take their time like I do or set an arbitrary time limit for themselves, eg 5min per puzzle. I'm 2400 puzzles as well but was 2200 blitz just a few days ago (and have over 2000 bullet and rapid). On the vanished EMRALD tactics site, I at best was 1650 ELO when I was in top condition, but could sink to 1400 very easily if I'd skipp it for a few weeks. What is a good one to have? If you are playing chess, and you win against someone who is many hundreds of points lower than you, you might not get any points. Elo's system made some assumptions to help keep the computations manageable, but this is not an issue with the power of computers nowadays. However my blitz rating on lichess is 1500-1600. They mostly reflect the amount of puzzles you have tried. I don't play any speed chess so the time element is not important.You've only played 9 rapid games on lichess, so does that mean you have played about 29,991 rapid games on chess.com! Clash between mismath's \C and babel with russian, Integral with cosine in the denominator and undefined boundaries. I do indeed have a short attention span as you suggest. 5 seconds for a puzzle? the guy that was 65000 rated has not played any games, Yeah Im able to recognize and see the different major sacrifices I have to make to checkmate/earn a position. Some sites substract points for the wrong answer, others reward you less if you take more time to resolve, yet others substract you points, even if the solution is right but you surpassed the alloted time. You're comparing apples and orange. Hi all, I am a 20 year old college student who has started playing chess about two years ago. Wow, impressive! I will go check him out this minute! Yeah, do that. for your rating is good. 7 min ago. As to what happens if there really is a gap? Attention resolving puzzles in an intensive manner for 1 week and not touching them for 3 weeks does the same as a runner, who runs one week in a month, then does not run for 3 weeks in a row. Thus, there is no point in comparing ratings. Went from 2000-2400 within a month easily but now its getting difficult with my added seasonal work load. But lately they (GothamChess in particular) are actually beginning to make sense and I am taking something valuable away from each one. The gap between my rapid and puzzle rating is also 400 points, probably that is just how it is, for the reasons I described in my answer. Be it Puzzle Rush, Blitz, or another game entirely. I like the stress-free pondering side of puzzle solving and also find it helpful to improve my analytical thinking ability. Thus, there is no point in comparing ratings. Puzzle ratings are different than Chess ratings in one important way: Your puzzle rating will always go up when you get a puzzle right! I gotta focus elsewhere in hopes of getting better. Likewise, I have had days where my concentration was poor and I struck out at 7. Also, there is a huge difference between solving puzzles and finding tactics in time OTB play. depends on your rating. I only mentioned him because I am relieved to say that at least I have SOME idea of what he is talking about now as compared to a year ago. One's rating bracket will determine what skill level they are. Even if there's a relation between puzzle rating and chess rating, it doesn't mean there's an exact relation. thats much better I play a lot of blitz at the moment so i am trying to limit my time on a puzzle. At this point, I try do my (25) per day a little faster to replicate a game environment, plus doing the puzzles daily helps exercise my mind. Finally, one hour a week probably won't get you very far with respect to chess. Position extra boxes to help guide the colored boxes into the desired position. The soccer players aren't worse: they just aren't useful numbers to compare. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: White to play: It is a checkmate - it is White's turn, but White has no legal moves and is in check, so Black wins.You can find out more about Checkmate on Wikipedia. like my puzzle rating is currently bad (but i reseted tho), my puzzle rating is more than a thousand points above my real rating. Since I'm new to the website, I'm having trouble judging what would be a good but achievable rating to aim for. I just really like playing and it's hard to resist hitting that "play" button. I'm clearly doing it wrong, I do about 20 puzzles a day and spend over a minute on each one, for most of them. Ackermann Function without Recursion or Stack. Some sites puzzles are harder then others. by ChessNetwork, https://www.chessratingcomparison.com/graphs, But then again I was never the best guessthecorrelation player. Move the colored boxes to the colored stars marked on the floor. There is a great video about cues for when a tactical motif is present in the position: "How is your Tactical Awareness?" I looked at the leaderboard and the highest-rated player is like 65000 so I feel kinda dumb. The best thing about it is that you can play . Botvinnik wouldn't even play quick games. It looked like a juicy numb. This makes sense when you think about it as with a puzzle you are analysing a position more objectively. I HAD to sign up again too keep in touch with a friend who I correspond with. Puzzle ratings don't really correlate well to playing ratings. About. For example, if you're rated 1700 but with a 1800 puzzle I'll find that decent and generally good but if you're rated 2300 but with a 2900 puzzle I'll start thinling that you're not so good at chess (even though your rating represents top 3% in blitz). I believe in theory an untitled player could even reach the same level as even a titled player in puzzle rating but still have a huge gap in chess (or chess960) ratings. On chess.com, my puzzle rating is 700 points higher than my game rating, but my chesstempo puzzle rating is only about 100 points higher than my chess.com game rating. Do you think he's 20 times as good as Magnus Carlsen? Indirectly it improves your skills over the board or at least make sure you are in a more or less trained condition. I'd start by doing Puzzle Streak or Puzzle Storm because the puzzles are easier. What should I do to improve and is 1100 bad? Tactics can be found and applied in all time controls. By clicking Accept all cookies, you agree Stack Exchange can store cookies on your device and disclose information in accordance with our Cookie Policy. As a general rule I strike out at around 30-33, though sometimes when I am having a good day I can get to between 36-40. For example I can't learn anything from Nakamuru or Carlsen because they are too advanced and hard to follow their thought process. Join the channel and become a MEMBER! There are three methods that help me do the hard but right things: Setting Challenges Holding myself accountable Building my self-confidence It could be that the 2000 puzzle rating converts to 1800 rapid. It came down to priorities and a plan set out by my coach. The entire point of this thread. What puzzle rating would people be by default(100-1200)? A FIDE rating of 2200-2300 indicates that a large number of National Masters (NMs) and Candidate Masters (CMs) are available to candidates. Such as solving difficult positions or analyzing your lost games. On Chess.com, I recently passed 2000 in the puzzle section. They mostly reflect the amount of puzzles you have tried. Anyway. I've played nearly 30,000 online rapid games between chess.com and lichess and my rating has stayed around 1500. You've only played 9 rapid games on lichess, so does that mean you have played about 29,991 rapid games on chess.com! Lichess ones are seriously hard, getting to 2400 was really tough. Generally someones puzzle rating should be around 400-500 points higher than you other rates. Learn all important tactical motifs to improve your chess systematically. But even if you solve the easiest puzzle, you will get at least 1 point for it. Our good old Adam, from the popular point-and-click puzzle game Adam and Eve, has taken a day off of his life threatening adventures to go golfing. What is a good one to have? An unrestricted time puzzle is worth less then one where e.g. It's challenging, but can be solved! Even though I was 2200 recently I wasnt taking my puzzles seriously and dropped to 2060. @OMG2112 Based on that, your puzzle rating is excellent with respect to blitz rating and lso with respect to how long are you playing. Powered by Help Scout. I open different accounts promising myself to play just games with them, but losing is definitely not enjoying and I quickly revert to the tactics so I could look at my puzzle rating and feel good about myself. During his absence other good chess players have appeared. Puzzle ratings here are utterly useless to measure, since one can simply use Stockfish to gain a 2700+ puzzle rating with no consequences. Organized Professional with 5 + years of experience in the IT industry. you can easily cheat in classical why are there classical ratings, then? However, being disciplined about what moves you consider can improve your rating. I looked at the profiles of a couple of dozen players, and almost all of them have a much higher rating for puzzles than any category of game. Good point re: ChessTempo's blitz grading. Please try again later. "Good" is all relative. I'm 450 on rapid but I have an 800 puzzle rating. It's just a tactics trainer. But if you get a 2500 rated puzzle wrong, you won't lose very many. Levy has posted more videos this year than Jerry has done in over 10. I know that I am supposed to play more games but losing and not improving my playing rating makes me go to the safe waters of solving puzzles. 1 Nel_S #2 Puzzle ratings here are utterly useless to measure, since one can simply use Stockfish to gain a 2700+ puzzle rating with no consequences. This is opposed to doing untimed puzzles where you might set an arbitrary time limit on yourself and as opposed to a hypothetical site that imposes, say, a 5 minute time limit on every puzzle (I think the hypothetical site is better than arbitrary self-imposed time limits but not as good as chesstempo). Id say 2000 puzzles rating is solid and respectable at 1200 level of play. It is common for individuals to have higher puzzle ratings than their game ratings (Blitz , Rapid more commonly). Even if there's an inherent (yet unspecified) time limit of around 1 minute, it's still a 'reasonable' time limit in the sense that it's not arbitrary: The time limit is not the same for each puzzle and is based on your rating, the puzzle's rating and other players' ratings that you're expected to complete the puzzle in within the time limit. And knowing that there is a solution is in itself an advantage, as opposed to a game situation when you don't know ahead of time that there's a winning move. I frankly think you should play slower games first until you become more skilled before graduating to the quicker ones. Do you think he's 20 times as good as Magnus Carlsen? I became pretty decent at it as well(I am over 2300 on lichess now and 1900-1950 on chesstempo) and kind of addicted now. While if you're rated 2200 in blitz but only 1900 in puzzles you might ask yourself if flagging people because of your 2100 UB rating or 2500 bullet rating (in 1/2+0) really makes you good at chess. Thanks for the input. Now you have too much choice and thousands of players at your exact level. I think it'd be similar even to like a conversion between ratings between any 2 sites say chesscom rapid and lichess rapid. Probably TMI but hey maybe it helps somebody else with the same problem. ty, @kingdave2 ok, now i remember yeah, it all looked pretty good, but all the comments, which were helpful btw, seemed really old. that's why i wondered how the site was doing lichess puzzles are totally random, i think they seem like general exercise. I gotta focus elsewhere in hopes of getting better. Is that decent? Learn chess tactics systematically with Puzzle Academy. My mind immediately gets foggy and the board seems all blurred when I am playing an actual game against an actual opponent. Anyone have any ideas? I am not even sure at this point if I really like playing chess. Summary: My puzzle rating is 2200-2300 on lichess and 1900-1950 on ChessTempo. But even if you solve the easiest puzzle, you will get at least 1 point for it. The tactics do help with board vision and pattern recognition so I do them everyday to stay sharp. All those tactics study doesn't help me at all. Its like morning excercises for 5 or 10 minutes. and it is one of the most beautiful geometric forms ever created, symmetrical from all angles. At what point of what we watch as the MCU movies the branching started? OMG @OMG2112 Today you had almost twice as many losses at the standard puzzle(27) as you did wins(16), which suggests to me you have a short attention span and need to focus on patience. I usually solve at least 10-15 puzzles daily and spend from 1 to 10 minute on each one depending on the difficulty. These are pending puzzles, which have not yet been rated: About 5% of the puzzles you run into will be new puzzles that have not yet been rated. Noted players who were skilled at quick chess became skilled before they began playing quick games. ty. There was a problem submitting your feedback. The lazy voice in my mind says "It's OK not to like playing chess, just do puzzles, that's what you love". Or just continue doing what you are doing because then you will never be a threat. Generally someones puzzle rating should be around 400-500 points higher than you other rates. I don't play any speed chess so the time element is not important. Is Koestler's The Sleepwalkers still well regarded? Even if chess is 99% tactics (In this case tactics is synonymous to puzzles? #6: If You Have Played Nearly 30,000 Rapid Games, Then No Wonder You Are Still Around 1500; Stop Playing For A Few Months, Then Begin Playing Again, And Trust me, You Will See A Huge Difference. This topic has been archived and can no longer be replied to. Is there a more recent similar source? When starting I was strongly advised to solve a lot of tactic puzzles and avoid studying openings. #2. Important things in life are definitely being neglected. There is a huge difference when on one site you'd get 1550 (time compared to avg resolution time), yet another 1780 (unrestricted but problems/diagrams well calibrated to actual players ELO, and yet another site where I got 2450 (lichess, with time unrestricted puzzles coming from bullet/speed/rapid chess games on the same site). You can play it on mobile devices like Apple iPhones, Google Android . But why sometimes do you lose so many points for wrong puzzles, or get so few points for correct ones? I appreciate the time it took to write such a thoughtful response.To be honest..Levy IS a little hard to follow as he goes off on tangents as to COULD have happened in a game. If the information in this article is out of date or incorrect, or if you have questions about it,please let us know! It doesn't matter if you are 1000, 1200 or 1400 rated you most likely want to add at least 200 points to your current elo. Bumvinnik May 22, 2021 0 #3 Likely just a display issue. Learning conversion is a matter of learning endgames mostly. It only takes a minute to sign up. Anyway, my initial goal was to achieve 2000 blitz rating on an online chess website and then maybe try to get a FIDE rating but the way things are going now it looks more and more difficult and I get demotivated as I can't pass even 1600 on lichess. Personalizes your training based on your strengths and weaknesses. Cookie Notice By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. However, in 10 minute games, I can't reach 1600. All chess player want to advance to the next level. Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience. Conversely, if you are rated 2000 puzzle rating, and you correctly solve a puzzle rated 2500, you will get a lot of points! 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